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Courage
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Tue Mar 25th, 2008 10:54 pm |
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| Hello there, I am looking to find a replacement etch for the owners of the Grace King house. A tree fell on the house during "Katrina", and now the entire house is under renovations. The etch that was lost was an arched top, exact template not available as of yet, but will be about 30" x 40". It was unusual because of the silver stain affect. I have seen similar, but without the silver stain hi-lights. If anyone has any information on this, please post a note. Many thanks, cindy Attached Image (viewed 68 times):
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Adam
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Posted: Wed Mar 26th, 2008 02:14 am |
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Cindy,
Are you looking for advice on how to etch this or for someone to etch it and silver stain it? It was probably acid etched. You will probalbly have a really hard time finding that pattern. You would probably be further ahead etching a suitable replacement. The only other problem would be finding a kiln large enough for the silver stain treatment.
Adam
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Courage
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Wed Mar 26th, 2008 04:36 am |
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Dear Adam,
Advice is always welcome, and if I could find someone who does do this, I would like to hear from them. No doubt it was etched with acid (hydroflouric?), and they must have had a large furnace to burn the silver stain. We have a few hot glass places here, but I haven't checked their firing capacity. I was hoping that this was screened, and that someone, somewhere may still be doing this. I don't know where it was produced, but I suspect it may be French. My intentions are to try and give the owners a solution to their problem. It sure looks like a lot of work to hand cut that large area, then etch, and then the size of the plate is an issue for firing....risky! The owners met me breifly, and are looking for options/answeres/ and no doubt a price. Thanks, Cindy
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mmezalick
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Posted: Wed Mar 26th, 2008 10:22 am |
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Cindy,
There is a company out of Texas that will cut the stencils for you on a computer. You send then the drawings or a part of the repeat and they produce a very nice product that can be transfer to the glass and etched. I used them before on a very large project and it work out nicely.
I do not remember the name but I will look it up.
So, If they work out, all you need is the kiln. I can do a 30" x 40" so I'm sure there are several others that may be available.
Michael
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Wed Mar 26th, 2008 01:24 pm |
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The speckling on the surface suggests to me that it might actually be painted with a light matt, not etched.
Debitus "Mouseline", with a VERY thin matt gives a similar effect (with a little gum and water). You need to spend ages cutting the shapes out of fablon (sticky back plastic) as a resist, and take great care when removing them after the matt so as not to disturb the unfired paint, but the end result is well worth it. It also needs a hotter than usual paint fire, to give the mouseline a greyish tint, otherwise you'll end up with a white matt surface. I don't know what the Farenheight equivolent is, but my paint usually fires around 600.C, so I would take the mouseline matt up to, at least, 650 / 675 / 700 .C depending on the thickness of the matt, to acheive the correct tonal value - simply, the hotter the fire the more the white reduces.
Linda
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Courage
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Posted: Thu Mar 27th, 2008 03:35 am |
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Very interesting, have you seen similar to this type of piece? I have another one in my studio that is not silver stained, and the matt/etch is similar, the detail is exquisite, and the texture is similar to a fine acid etch. This one is about 110 years old. The thickness of this plate/float is about 3/16" where as the first one is about 1/8".
Thanks, Cindy
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Courage
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Thu Mar 27th, 2008 04:24 am |
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Michael,
That sounds wonderful. I would love more information. Sounds like this could be the way to go. I would love to avoid the hand cutting on this one.
Cindy
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bbates
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Posted: Thu Mar 27th, 2008 01:03 pm |
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We have a large format machine (up to 46" by ???) that can cut out vinyl as a resist for etching...
We'd love to branch out and cut the graphics for any of these projects...
Our website is mossglass.com, my email is bbates@mossglass.com
Email the image and size, and we can shoot you back some quotes.
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Courage
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Thu Mar 27th, 2008 03:11 pm |
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Thank you for the post. I am waiting for the frame to be reconstructed and it will have an arch top. I will definitely get back to you with more information after I speak to the architect about the frame.
Regards,
Cindy
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Courage
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Posted: Thu Mar 27th, 2008 03:11 pm |
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I will e-mail you further information.
Regards,
CindyLast edited on Thu Mar 27th, 2008 03:12 pm by Courage
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Courage
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Tue Apr 15th, 2008 12:00 am |
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Linda,
Just wanted to let you know that you are right about the piece. I went back and got a closer look, and indeed it is painted along with the silver stain to the back side. There are areas in the background that are missing paint and "speckled areas". I have no idea on the amount of hours spent on a piece like this but I may find out real soon. I am still working out the details on this one. Thank you for your expertise. Cheers!
Cindy
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