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mmezalick
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 Thu Jan 17th, 2008 12:54 pm
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I am putting it out for your interest and possible help.

Michael Mezalick

 

Subject: Windows by George Hardy Payne

I was wondering if you could help me out with some information. I am the
President of the board of St. John's United Church of Christ in Schuylkill
Haven, PA. We are currently looking for information concerning our stained
glass windows.

The building was constructed from 1925-1927 and includes an extensive
collection of windows by the George Hardey Payne Studios of Patterson, NJ.
Only 2 of the windows are "pictures", the rest (about 60 in all!) are basic
art deco designs. This is the only information we have. Any information you
could furnish us concerning other examples of their work or about their
studio would be appreciated. If you would like to view them, please visit
our website:

http://www.stjohnsreformed.com and click on the "worship & music" link, then scroll
to the bottom and click on "the windows of St. John's"

Thank you for any input you could provide,

Timothy C. Gipe
President
St. John's United Church of Christ
121 East Main Street
Schuylkill Haven, PA 17972

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The Payne Studio went through 4 generations before they closed in the 1980's

George Payne I started as a glass painter for Clayton & Bell in London. He immigrated to Montreal and then to Orange, N.J. I recently restored a window he did c.1881 for the Thomas Edison home in West Orange. His son George II took over the business, followed by George Hardy Payne and then by George Leslie Payne. Rohlf Stained Glass bought out the company after George L. died.  Payne Studio was the American representative for Wipple Stained Glass in England.

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Vic wrote: The Payne Studio went through 4 generations before they closed in the 1980's

George Payne I started as a glass painter for Clayton & Bell in London. He immigrated to Montreal and then to Orange, N.J. I recently restored a window he did c.1881 for the Thomas Edison home in West Orange. His son George II took over the business, followed by George Hardy Payne and then by George Leslie Payne. Rohlf Stained Glass bought out the company after George L. died.  Payne Studio was the American representative for Wipple Stained Glass in England.

Is it known if Wipple Stained Glass signed their own windows?  I have seen windows in MI which are signed Payne but I have wondered if they are in fact by Wipple.

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I've seen some here in NJ with a Wipple signature.

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Barbara, 

In the past few days I have joined this discussion board and it is interesting to look back at some of the old postings.  

I knew George Payne towards the end of his life,  I worked for both the Wippell Studio and George Payne.

George L. Payne represented Wippells of Exeter, Devon, UK., for many years and in the process used Wippell designers such as Arthur Erridge, George Cooper Abbs, Frederick Cole and me. 

Arthur Erridge initially designed many of the windows for Swannee University of the South, after Erridge's death Fred Cole took over and designed many more,  I cartooned two of Fred's windows for this project. 

Later after Fred left Wippells he designed more windows for Swannee as a free-lance for George Payne.

George Payne and Wippell discontinued their connection round about 1962/3 and then George employed Fred Cole as a freelance on numerous church windows.

In 1977 I was about to leave Wippells, made contact with George Payne who was agreeable for me to design for him as a free-lance which I did until his death in the early 1980's.  His widow continued for about a year and then sold out to Rolf Studios.

 One excellent artist who also worked for George Payne was Per Bergathon (I'm not sure if that's the correct spelling)

 

 

 

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Roy, thanks for your recollections.  I printed off your comments and put them in the SGAA Bio book for George Payne.  Do you have a list of where the windows went that you worked on?  Thanks

Barbara

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Barbara,

I do not have the records of the Payne / Wippell era, as I was an employee, but no doubt Wippells have them on file.    

My freelance work for George Payne was approximately 30 years ago and I'm not sure what information I still have in my files,  I will look when I can find the time, although I may have disposed of them.  

My involvement was design and cartooning,  George had the glass cut, painted and leaded in USA.

 

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Roy, do you recognize anything here?

 

http://www.robertasgallery.com/Payne%20Spiers%20Gallery.htm

http://www.robertasgallery.com/PS%20Gallery%202.htm

http://www.robertasgallery.com/PS%20Gallery%203.htm

 

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Barbara,

I don't recognise any of the photos as being English, some look like Bergathon,  especially the Colonial Style designs. 

My limited knowledge of George L Payne is only because I was involved with freelance work for him.   

I thought Payne Spiers was a different studio but I may be wrong, there may have been a connection at one time.  I don't know too much about the history of the Payne studio.

 

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Roy wrote: Barbara,

I don't recognise any of the photos as being English, some look like Bergathon,  especially the Colonial Style designs. 

My limited knowledge of George L Payne is only because I was involved with freelance work for him.   

I thought Payne Spiers was a different studio but I may be wrong, there may have been a connection at one time.  I don't know too much about the history of the Payne studio.

 

George Spears partnered with George Hardy Payne. George Hardy was doing "Tiffany" style windows. They completed some Tiffany contracts after Tiffany closed

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Vic, I would be interested in knowing the location of church(es) with windows completed by Payne....after the demise of Tiffany Studio, or would you have photos.  Thanks.  Barbara


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