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mmezalick
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 Fri Mar 21st, 2008 07:36 pm
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The AGG has been asked for some help in attaining information about what may be some Tiffany windows.

There are thought to been Purchased by Pierre Lorillard before his death in 1901.

They are not listed in the Alastair Duncan Book .

Any information would be helpful.

Michael

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 Fri Mar 21st, 2008 10:00 pm
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As far as I know, if a church does not have their own records, and if nothing about the church was printed in the book, Tiffany Windows by Alastair Duncan, there may be no records....yet.
 
However, I have a few questions - what is the name of the church/building and where is it located?  And I wonder if there is any information about who the architect was....it is an interesting building.
 Are these windows plated?  It is difficult to tell from the photos.  And opalescent glass?  There were other studios making plated windows and with just opalescent windows.  And to make matters more muddled, some artists who worked for the Tiffany Studio went their own way, but the "hand" of the artist on their windows still looks like that from Tiffany Studio.  I have seen that for myself in Pasadena CA where Frederick Wilson designed these windows for Judson Studios....but they look like Tiffany Studio.  But these windows seem to be non-figural
    Another situation is this - perhaps the name of the church/building  has changed, as many have been prone to do.  Would need name of original congregation.
 
Another studio making plated/opalescent windows at the same time is the Lamb Studio.  Recently, many of the old studio records were donated to the Library of Congress.  You could do a word search for your church, your city, the image in the window, etc. to see if in fact your windows might be from the Lamb Studio.
http://lcweb2.loc.gov/pp/lambhtml/lambback.html
 
Recently a book was written, Clara Driscoll and the Tiffany Girls.  The book is based on actual letters written by an employee of Tiffany Studios and discovered in the late 1990s and documents many previously unknown situations involving the Tiffany Studios as Clara Driscoll was very important in the Tiffany firm.  So, my point in telling you this is....there is still much more to discover about the Tiffany Studios, as I am sure someone is already researching the 20-30 women named in the book to see if there are old letters, old pictures, etc. that may shed further light on the firm.  I did a quick Google search for Pierre Lorillard who was mentioned in the earlier message and see that he was the first owner of the Breakers in Newport, RI, then sold to the Vanderbilts.  And then he bought a lot of land in Tuxedo Park, NY for recreational purposes.  Have you looked for newspaper records of that time from local library and/or historical society?  Is this structure in Tuxedo Park?  Could the same studio that provided stained glass for The Breakers been used for this building?
 
 
    Please let me know if I can be of additional assistance for you. 
 
 
[size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" PT]Barbara Krueger
[size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" PT]Research Assistant Michigan Stained Glass Census
[size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" PT]Michigan State University Museum
[size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" PT]E. Lansing, MI

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 Posted: Sat Mar 22nd, 2008 11:19 am
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Barbara,

To answer a few of your questions.

The building is a private residence, as far as the person asking for the help knows. There is no known location of the building, just the photographs. There is no information of the architect.

I also did the search on Google and a few other places and from the pictures I was able to get, this building does not look like either the Breakers or Tuxedo Park.

It may not even exist anymore for all we know.

I agree with you that without hard evidence, these windows could have been made by many other studios.

It may be that the term "Tiffany" is being applied as a catch all phrase, similar to the "Tiffany" lamps from The Home Depot stores.

Michael


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